Sea Breeze

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  Still here.

  by Lee Marsh in

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  the last 2 1/2 years have been extremely stressful.

  while the rest of the world was dealing with covid, i was also dealing with cancer.

  in fact it seems none of my doctors knew about it.

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  Sea Breeze

  Glad to hear the good news!
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  Convention theme generator

  by Smiles in

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  do anyone here remember a now inactive webpage that would generate hypothetical convention themes?

  it may have been something like districtconventionthemegenerator.

  com.. this was from about 20 years ago.

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  Sea Breeze

  I hear there will be a gathering in heaven that the GB will attend called Divine Judgement. Not sure how many days it will last.
  
  
  
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  Does anyone else get “triggered” when somebody uses the word “triggered”?

  by slimboyfat in

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  what’s the world coming to?

  (i guess this makes me officially an older while male now ).

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  Sea Breeze

  What triggers me is when someone abuses the term: "At the end of the day..."
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  There is no virus

  by Ace1971 in

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  https://www.bitchute.com/video/g9oyegpar91l/.

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  Sea Breeze

  I got the J & J jab about 9 months ago. Last week I came down with a pretty nasty case of Covid. 104 degree fever , body aches etc. No respitory issues to speak of. I got the antibody treatment within 3 days of symptoms and started to improve immediately.
  
  I don't know what to think of the "vaccines".
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  Joel Osteen

  by jhine in

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  i am reading a lot on quora digest about this chap joel osteen.

  i and other brits have said that he is hardly known in the uk .

  it has been asserted that he is filling stadiums over here.

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  Sea Breeze

  I used to secretly listen to his dad occasionally when I was a JW kid growing up in Houston. I liked his Dad.
  
  Joel is great for motivation. If you are doing sales grind all day, and if you are a believer, Joel is gold. But, you won't get much theology. He draws pretty sharp criticism from most conservative churches.
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  Wrong Religion

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  2. beliefs

  we brainstormed a while back on this forum and pooled our knowledge on how to recognize false religion.

  i think the list is worth reviewing and adding to if possible.

  please feel free to correct and or add insights of your own to this list:.

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  Sea Breeze

  Fortunately, the apostles made it easy for future generations of Christians to determine error:

  Galatians 1:8-9
  But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
  As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

  Anyone who claims to have new light or any other belief that the apostles didn't clearly teach is cursed.

  Pretty simple. I like simple things.
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  Jesus is Michael the Archangel

  by Fisherman in

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  only jesus has the power and authority to defeat satan and kick him out of heaven:.

  “now have come to pass the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our god and the authority of his christ, because the accuser of our brothers has been hurled down, who accuses them day and night before our god.”.

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  Sea Breeze

  Myelaine,

  Most people are aware of Messianic Jews. If you are a Christian, you could go to one of their services and feel right at home. Jews around the world are accepting Christ in surprising umbers. Muslims are as well btw.
  
  However, there is another group of Jews who accept Christ as Messiah who advocate a number of errors. This second group is called the Hebrew Roots movement. They are not monolithic but accept or reject varying aspects of orthodoxy.
  
  The biggest difference between Messianic Jews and the Hebrew Root advocates / movement. is their understanding on how the Law relates to Gentiles, but also how it relates to believers in general. This movement predates Christianity as Dr. Johnson explains below in this brief & candid discussion.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85sisFAQbmQ&ab_channel=ProphecyWatchers
  
  DJW,
  
  Just popping in briefly.... will read your posts in greater detail later this week.
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  Jesus is Michael the Archangel

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
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  only jesus has the power and authority to defeat satan and kick him out of heaven:.

  “now have come to pass the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our god and the authority of his christ, because the accuser of our brothers has been hurled down, who accuses them day and night before our god.”.

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  Sea Breeze

  Hand waving wont work here Fisherman. You are not at the Kingdom Hall. Provide scriptures supporting your position on death please.
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  Jesus is Michael the Archangel

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
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  only jesus has the power and authority to defeat satan and kick him out of heaven:.

  “now have come to pass the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our god and the authority of his christ, because the accuser of our brothers has been hurled down, who accuses them day and night before our god.”.

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  Sea Breeze

  Since I am now an atheist I really need to spend drastically less time on the subject of theology, primarily confining it only to the purpose of convincing people to stop believing in Christianity.

  DJW -
  
  Maybe, just wear a placard that says Stop Believing in Christianity instead of trying to formulate arguments. Like I said, I have proven that the ideas you were indoctrinated with about the nature of man and death are biblically false... The entire WT logic stands on these two pillars. Ironically, so does atheism.

  die and resurrect himself after three days....and then did it.
  Then he wasn’t dead.

  Fisherman, you have been indoctrinated the same as DJW, and the rest of us were. Your concept of die or death is a LIE. Did you not read my extensive post a few posts back regarding the biblical definition of death?
  
  If you did, you would see no contradiction at all with Jesus claiming that he would die and resurrect himself.

  Here's the diagram from page 2:
  

  
  

  Reread my post at the top of this page and look at this diagram. Jesus could not have been human unless, like us, he had these three parts. But, Jesus was human because he had all three of these parts just as we do. The bible is clear that this is how we are designed.
  
  Furthermore, since "God is a Spirit", he provided the spirit portion of the man Jesus with his own essence - Spirit. This was a one-time thing.... hence the term only-begotten. Get it now?

  The Spirit of Jesus was out of the Father... similar to how my sons are literally out of me.

  God's indivisible Spirit was veiled in human flesh. That's why the book of Revelation is called "The Unveiling". Jesus is fully revealed there in all his majesty as both God and Man.

  I am not saying you must accept biblical theology any more than you must accept the idea that Jesus died for you personally and not Adam.
  
  All, I'm saying is that the bible is internally consistent - if you use biblical definitions and not try to superimpose non-biblical definitions on words.
  
  I have provided many scriptural proofs on this thread and they are consistent. If anyone wants to keep their WT ideas on Man and Death, they should try to defend their ideas biblically.
  
  Fisherman and DJW,
  
  Why don't you guys try to mount a defense of the WT's definition of Man & Death?
  
  Surely, you see by now how critical this is to supporting both Watchtowerism and Atheism. Both will live or die on these two definitions.
  
  What say either of you on this?
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  Jesus is Michael the Archangel

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
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  only jesus has the power and authority to defeat satan and kick him out of heaven:.

  “now have come to pass the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our god and the authority of his christ, because the accuser of our brothers has been hurled down, who accuses them day and night before our god.”.

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  Sea Breeze

  Earnest:

  There was a lot of uncertainty about who Jesus was in the first century,

  Of course there was.... UNTIL he stated on several occasions that he would die and resurrect himself after three days....and then did it.

  Either he is a liar, or he is God. No in between here. We all have to choose a side at some point.